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Audio Refugees • View topic - Mastering Verb?
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Mastering Verb?

PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 2:05 pm
by icararse
CJ used this term on dikki dumdums song,hmmmm might have been Huds,anyways


When and how do you use it?

Re: Mastering Verb?

PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 4:39 pm
by Mark Kaufman
It's reverb you might choose to apply across the entire mix, something done at the mastering stage when all the multi-tracks have been blended into a single stereo track.

We all do this stuff differently. When I read what the pros say, I've noticed that adding reverb at mastering time is not a typical thing...a lot of pros insist that reverb sloshed across all tracks is a way to ruin good sound, and that the better way is to get each track sounding good in the mix. Those who think this way will apply the same instance of reverb across buss groups--like one reverb for all the harmony parts--but they still feel each track needs it's own consideration. A bass, for example, might sound better without any reverb, even on a reverb-heavy song.

That said, I certainly do it sometimes, especially when I want it to sound like one band in the same room. But less is more, I keep trying to remind myself...of all the effects, reverb sure can be a hairtrigger difference between muddy and wide open.

Re: Mastering Verb?

PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 5:33 pm
by icararse

Re: Mastering Verb?

PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 11:23 pm
by jaymz
It can be used and is quite a bit.. but not your normal reverb will do.. you need to be careful about mastering reverbs, they are meant to make the edges move without disturbing the natural reverb that may already be in your mix. They act like a coat of varnish.. a very light coat.. on certain genres, the reverb can be blended with your compression in such a way that only certain dyanmics have the matering reverb applied.. kind of a ducked reverb.

Re: Mastering Verb?

PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 11:41 pm
by cjdenecia

Re: Mastering Verb?

PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 6:32 am
by icararse

Re: Mastering Verb?

PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 6:33 am
by icararse

Re: Mastering Verb?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 4:30 pm
by HUD
Interesting topic.

On the last thing I recorded, "You're Nobody" (buried on the tailend of the "B├ęsame Mucho" thread - somebody give it some lurve - please), which is two guitars & a voice, I played around with verb ("small club" and "drum room" maybe it was-nothing big) on the overall mix, and was amazed at how good the guitars sounded and echoey awful the vocal sounded. "Small room", which is next to nothing seemed right.

You do the verb after the compression I assume? I've noticed on verbbing individual tracks that compression can tend to yank the reverb upward & louder in the holes/gaps...which was a solid argument as for why to verb it at the very last.

However, also true that not verbbing any part needlessly (most notably bass since the silence in the gaps can be just as important as the sound) is a solid opposing argument.

What would 3rd Ear do?

Re: Mastering Verb?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 6:20 pm
by jaymz
Empty a few emergency water bottles and put his head in between them to see how things sounded.

Re: Mastering Verb?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 6:26 am
by Jay

Re: Mastering Verb?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 11:03 am
by Diki Black

Re: Mastering Verb?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 11:24 pm
by zxyz

Re: Mastering Verb?

PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 7:10 am
by Krispy

Re: Mastering Verb?

PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 12:06 am
by zxyz

Re: Mastering Verb?

PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 12:15 am
by cjdenecia